Thu May 14 19:15:36 2020
<8f79fcda> Make North America great again
<8f79fcda> (Mexico can come too)
<7d56dcb3> that’s a lot of big talk, but if you were to throw out every single “made in china” product you use, i doubt you’d last a day. and if china were to stop all exports to the US? they’ll just sit and watch as our entire society collapses. we’re already loosing our shit with the mask shortage, making home made masks and shit… just imagine americans making all kinds of home made shit cuz china won’t supply us anymore cheap shit.
<8f79fcda> don’t forget all the other countries out there dude
<7d56dcb3> it’s already been 3 months and america still hasn’t been able to “bring back” mask manufacturing. not even to the point where we’re meeting demand. now multiply this among a wider range of products. just go to your local walmart, see how many of their products are made in china.
<8f79fcda> btw this is our site <@U2S98EDNK>
<8f79fcda> if you’re interested in writing some content for it – feel free
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<8f79fcda> The burden is on us (individually) to be astute about where we source our goods
<7d56dcb3> tell that to walmart
<8f79fcda> i don’t shop at walmart
<8f79fcda> because i know that most of their shit comes from china
<8f79fcda> whaddabout the other people?
<7d56dcb3> they’re not the only ones. almost every store’s shit comes from china these days.
<8f79fcda> be the change you want to see in the world
<8f79fcda> i’m not dictating anything, or saying it will happen overnight
<8f79fcda> but our buddy <@U0F3N7HC0> makes masks
<8f79fcda> he started to make them the day it was announced that we were in a shortage
<8f79fcda> <@U0F3N7HC0> what’s your ecommerce site again? <http://cottagemasks.com|cottagemasks.com>?
<8f79fcda> i just bought one.
<8f79fcda> in fact i’m going to give him free advertising on our website :slightly_smiling_face:
<8f79fcda> admittedly it’s one thing to have a cavalier attitude, but there is hope, and proving it out is on us
<7d56dcb3> the effort is admirable, but frankly, this is not enough to stop the bleeding, and is actually a sign of the state of poverty we’re in. this is like great depression type conditions.
<8f79fcda> gotta embrace the suck
<7d56dcb3> just imagine having to make more than just masks…
<8f79fcda> sure – there are tons of countries that aren’t communist china that make those things.
<8f79fcda> most of our textiles come from turkey
<8f79fcda> rugs and shit
<7d56dcb3> yeah sure there are other 3rd world shit holes…
<773ab1f1> A little FYI I just drove to home depot and saw 6+ moving vans of people moving out and 3 families begging at the corner in a 1.5 mile ride. These families were clean shaven with fresh fades on their beards
<773ab1f1> This is the first real sight of economic devastation I’ve seen with my own eyes, besides empty meat shelves.
<8f79fcda> that’s a shame
<7d56dcb3> oh don’t worry just tell them to embrace the suck and blame china or something…
<8f79fcda> do you think that the current relationship we have with china represents an existential threat to the US and our way of life?
<7d56dcb3> how you seen how much shit is made in china? they literally manufacture “the american way of life”! those american flags in walmart are probably not made in america…
<8f79fcda> it’s illegal to make american flag outside of the US
<7d56dcb3> that sounds like some totalitarian commie bullshit to me…
<8f79fcda> throw rocks all you want man
<7d56dcb3> i wanna decouple from china as much as anyone, but we have to do it smartly and without destroying our own way of life.
<7d56dcb3> as in… we have to be able to be self sufficient and make our own shit first before we can tell china to fuck off.
<8f79fcda> the argument you’re making is that it’s already destroyed
<8f79fcda> so – there’s no time like the present
<7d56dcb3> let me know when walmart makes more shit in america than in china, then we’ll talk…
<8f79fcda> for starters – don’t shop at walmart
<7d56dcb3> you guys wanna american juche, you better be ready for american juche… start living that north korean life… self reliance! self determination!
<8f79fcda> don’t buy shitty shit on wish dot commie
<7d56dcb3> throw out all “made in china” products you own. that’ll show those damn commies!
<8f79fcda> unironically thinking that north korea isn’t a puppet state of the CCP
<7d56dcb3> unironically thinking that was the point i was trying to make
<8f79fcda> and… anything i replace i make sure it isn’t made in china
<7d56dcb3> i’m just saying… decoupling from china too quickly is going to lead to some serious economic devastation. great depression grapes of wrath type shit.
<7d56dcb3> china can live without us, but can we live without them?
<8f79fcda> i’m blessed that the decouple decision is above my pay grade
<8f79fcda> but i can take steps on a daily basis to help the cause
<8f79fcda> you should too
<8f79fcda> there are a ton of levers to pull at a macro and micro level as well
<8f79fcda> stuff that we aren’t even aware of
<8f79fcda> why not remove CCP members from governing boards of companies? if a private company makes that decision, is it “commie totalitarianism shit” to you?
<8f79fcda> trump Eo’d that federal pension funds have to get rid of CCP companies from their investment portfolios
<7d56dcb3> what happened to freedom and private enterprise? why should governments be able to tell companies who to have on their boards or not?
<8f79fcda> re-read what i said
<7d56dcb3> i’m poor. i like buying cheap shit. if made in america is cheaper and better, i’m buying it. if it’s china, i’m buying it. i don’t care who makes it.
<7d56dcb3> it can be made in a sweat shop by babies for all i care. it’s muh freedumzzz and muh capitalizmzzzz
<7d56dcb3> go pay $10 for overpriced “fair-trade” coffee if you care about principles so much…
<8f79fcda> you’re really fixed on this capitalism/communism dicotomy
<8f79fcda> it’s an incomplete set of options
<7d56dcb3> you’re the one with the website literally called “commie watch”
<8f79fcda> … what’s the point you’re trying to make?
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<7d56dcb3> that you’re the one obsessed with communism. i have no qualms about china’s “commienism”, the economic reforms of the 90s change all of that. you’re not complaining about china being too “communist”, you’re complaining that they’re being too capitalist and they’re beating you at your own game.
<5547a085> Another false equivalency, you seem to have some inexplicable hang ups about … Something
<5547a085> We engage in discourse here, just spit it out already
<9e126bf3> localism is in, globalist economy is out
<9e126bf3> forget made in USA, how about made in TX, made in Austin? the more local the better
<7d56dcb3> lol juche texas!
<8f79fcda> i have issue with regulatory hindrances on the US economy put in place by squirrel squeezers that say we can’t burn coal, roll steel, or drill baby drill. I have issue with the fact that our government is infested with communists that “want it that way” – i have issue with low-information citizens being “okay with helicopter money”
<8f79fcda> i have issue with our governmnet forfeiting our strategic advantages because they worship money and profit over wellbeing
<8f79fcda> i have issues with people thinking that a heavy handed centrally controlled economy is the solution to our problem
<8f79fcda> i have issue with people who principally believe that property rights aren’t real, that borders aren’t meaningful in any sense
<7d56dcb3> > i have issues with people thinking that a heavy handed centrally controlled economy is the solution to our problem
and yet you believe that it should be illegal to make american flags outside of america… or that governments should be able to tell commies to not have “commies” on their boards… or to not invest in “commie” companies…
<7d56dcb3> > i have issue with our governmnet forfeiting our strategic advantages because they worship money and profit over wellbeing
not worshipping money and profit? sounds like some commie bullshit to me…
<7d56dcb3> > i have issue with people who principally believe that property rights aren’t real, that borders aren’t meaningful in any sense
it’s ok instead of having chinese make all our products, we’ll just have more mexicans in america making them for us… but hey at least they’re not commiez!
<7d56dcb3> btw, i kinda like the idea of juche texas… self-reliance! self-determination!