Mon Jan 1 03:03:34 2024
(*6952cd93*):: yes we’ve looked into it a couple times. We had rocket.chat for a little bit a while back but we ran into some issues and people wanted to keep using slack. There’s a lot of options these days. The hardest thing is to get people to move lol. There’s always little things we are missing. What have you used before? Element? Mattersmost? I’ve been meaning to run some irc servers as a backup for kicks and bridge them here but I haven’t got to it yet though the irc bridge I wrote a while back for our slackbot does still work. I used to bridge to freenode before it got rekt but nobody here really used it except me. Anyway it’s still on the todo list haha. I love irc still.
(*71144c1d*):: I’ve used Element, Mattermost, Rocket.Chat, IRC, XMPP, but really open to anything that’s open source and self-hosted (e.g. not relying on some corpo to not fuck me over for using a disposable email). I’m not picky about needing anything more than basic text, but out of curiosity for the “little things missing”, what are they?
I’m happy to sysadmin, build custom integrations, etc. I’m even working on “baby’s first high-availability home server setup” with huge UPS systems on basically all of my outlets that have computing-related stuff in them (inc. my closet of routers, hw fw, hw vpn gateways, etc).
Do we have a formal work-tracking system akin to Jira or ADO to create work items for volunteer projects like this? e.g. “define reqs”, “research what software meets our reqs”, “provide hosting / live instance”, etc for something like this, so that those of us who want to could collaborate asynchronously on actually getting from point A to point B can have a way to avoid duplication of efforts / track progress /etc?
(*6952cd93*):: yeah if you want to help with hosting services that would be cool. The things missing are things like reliable notifications, a good mobile app experience, inertia from some stuff that we’ve already built for slack, keeping in touch with old users that come back after a while, annoying freemium stuff, etc. Nothing terribly major that would prevent us from actually migrating though, we just need to set it up and get people motivated after ironing out the issues.
I wanted to do the proper home datacenter setup with a half rack but I hit a wall with connectivity and power issues, even with a long running UPS. The power went out for 12 hours a couple of times at my condo in Austin and in south texas at my Mom’s where I tried and bled out my UPSes haha. And the internet would go out or get degraded more than I found acceptable even with a business class connection from spectrum (I gave up before I had google fiber in my condo, it’s probably better but surely still oversubscribed). I looked at going with leased line dedicated internet instead of the oversubscribed crap that we get with typical internet access but it’s super expensive and is kind of overkill running that to a residential zone. That’s why I bit the bullet and just set up a server at a proper datacenter where connectivity is dedicated and already set up and power is backed by multiple layers of ups and generator backup. It is pricey though but the beauty is that it’s all our own compute hardware and the level of service is awesome. Plus we get free conference rooms! You might have a better experience running stuff at home where you’re at though. Do you have a couple public IP addresses to host stuff on?
We have a gitlab instance at gitlab.catx.io, we can use it for JIRA/ADO type issue tracking. You should be able to create an account there.
(*71144c1d*):: Dude I fucking hate Spectrum. They are genuinely the only ISP I’ve ever had with less than three 9’s of availability.
My actual home setup rn has everything going out over a VPN. If I were to start hosting, I’d need to switch to a VPN that allows port forwarding and set up a reverse proxy in front for extra privacy, both for me and for clients.
(*6952cd93*):: yes we’ve looked into it a couple times. We had rocket.chat for a little bit a while back but we ran into some issues and people wanted to keep using slack. There’s a lot of options these days. The hardest thing is to get people to move lol. There’s always little things we are missing. What have you used before? Element? Mattersmost? I’ve been meaning to run some irc servers as a backup for kicks and bridge them here but I haven’t got to it yet though the irc bridge I wrote a while back for our slackbot does still work. I used to bridge to freenode before it got rekt but nobody here really used it except me. Anyway it’s still on the todo list haha. I love irc still.
(*71144c1d*):: I’ve used Element, Mattermost, Rocket.Chat, IRC, XMPP, but really open to anything that’s open source and self-hosted (e.g. not relying on some corpo to not fuck me over for using a disposable email). I’m not picky about needing anything more than basic text, but out of curiosity for the “little things missing”, what are they?
I’m happy to sysadmin, build custom integrations, etc. I’m even working on “baby’s first high-availability home server setup” with huge UPS systems on basically all of my outlets that have computing-related stuff in them (inc. my closet of routers, hw fw, hw vpn gateways, etc).
Do we have a formal work-tracking system akin to Jira or ADO to create work items for volunteer projects like this? e.g. “define reqs”, “research what software meets our reqs”, “provide hosting / live instance”, etc for something like this, so that those of us who want to could collaborate asynchronously on actually getting from point A to point B can have a way to avoid duplication of efforts / track progress /etc?
(*6952cd93*):: yeah if you want to help with hosting services that would be cool. The things missing are things like reliable notifications, a good mobile app experience, inertia from some stuff that we’ve already built for slack, keeping in touch with old users that come back after a while, annoying freemium stuff, etc. Nothing terribly major that would prevent us from actually migrating though, we just need to set it up and get people motivated after ironing out the issues.
I wanted to do the proper home datacenter setup with a half rack but I hit a wall with connectivity and power issues, even with a long running UPS. The power went out for 12 hours a couple of times at my condo in Austin and in south texas at my Mom’s where I tried and bled out my UPSes haha. And the internet would go out or get degraded more than I found acceptable even with a business class connection from spectrum (I gave up before I had google fiber in my condo, it’s probably better but surely still oversubscribed). I looked at going with leased line dedicated internet instead of the oversubscribed crap that we get with typical internet access but it’s super expensive and is kind of overkill running that to a residential zone. That’s why I bit the bullet and just set up a server at a proper datacenter where connectivity is dedicated and already set up and power is backed by multiple layers of ups and generator backup. It is pricey though but the beauty is that it’s all our own compute hardware and the level of service is awesome. Plus we get free conference rooms! You might have a better experience running stuff at home where you’re at though. Do you have a couple public IP addresses to host stuff on?
We have a gitlab instance at gitlab.catx.io, we can use it for JIRA/ADO type issue tracking. You should be able to create an account there.
(*71144c1d*):: Dude I fucking hate Spectrum. They are genuinely the only ISP I’ve ever had with less than three 9’s of availability.
My actual home setup rn has everything going out over a VPN. If I were to start hosting, I’d need to switch to a VPN that allows port forwarding and set up a reverse proxy in front for extra privacy, both for me and for clients.
(*6952cd93*):: what ISP do you use at your place? How much bandwidth? what’s the latency like over the vpn?
(*54b3f3ac*)::
(*75de6f1e*):: I knew a guy who would grab the whole dispenser of lotto tickets then sell them to illegals.. not a good dude
(*6952cd93*):: +public!
(*71144c1d*):: GayT&T. Symmetric gigabit fiber with low single digit ms ping to nearby datacenters off VPN. Currently around ~20% of the BW on VPN, with pings considerably impacted.
But no way in hell am I letting the private sector branch of the NSA look at all of my traffic unencrypted. They literally don’t even see DNS – I do DoH (OpenNIC, not Q9/Google/Cloudflare, who are all also private sector branches of the GCHQ/NSA/NSA, respectively) and route all of that through the VPN, which I’m connecting to with a hardcoded IP rather than DNS.
(*6952cd93*):: yes we’ve looked into it a couple times. We had rocket.chat for a little bit a while back but we ran into some issues and people wanted to keep using slack. There’s a lot of options these days. The hardest thing is to get people to move lol. There’s always little things we are missing. What have you used before? Element? Mattersmost? I’ve been meaning to run some irc servers as a backup for kicks and bridge them here but I haven’t got to it yet though the irc bridge I wrote a while back for our slackbot does still work. I used to bridge to freenode before it got rekt but nobody here really used it except me. Anyway it’s still on the todo list haha. I love irc still.
(*71144c1d*):: I’ve used Element, Mattermost, Rocket.Chat, IRC, XMPP, but really open to anything that’s open source and self-hosted (e.g. not relying on some corpo to not fuck me over for using a disposable email). I’m not picky about needing anything more than basic text, but out of curiosity for the “little things missing”, what are they?
I’m happy to sysadmin, build custom integrations, etc. I’m even working on “baby’s first high-availability home server setup” with huge UPS systems on basically all of my outlets that have computing-related stuff in them (inc. my closet of routers, hw fw, hw vpn gateways, etc).
Do we have a formal work-tracking system akin to Jira or ADO to create work items for volunteer projects like this? e.g. “define reqs”, “research what software meets our reqs”, “provide hosting / live instance”, etc for something like this, so that those of us who want to could collaborate asynchronously on actually getting from point A to point B can have a way to avoid duplication of efforts / track progress /etc?
(*6952cd93*):: yeah if you want to help with hosting services that would be cool. The things missing are things like reliable notifications, a good mobile app experience, inertia from some stuff that we’ve already built for slack, keeping in touch with old users that come back after a while, annoying freemium stuff, etc. Nothing terribly major that would prevent us from actually migrating though, we just need to set it up and get people motivated after ironing out the issues.
I wanted to do the proper home datacenter setup with a half rack but I hit a wall with connectivity and power issues, even with a long running UPS. The power went out for 12 hours a couple of times at my condo in Austin and in south texas at my Mom’s where I tried and bled out my UPSes haha. And the internet would go out or get degraded more than I found acceptable even with a business class connection from spectrum (I gave up before I had google fiber in my condo, it’s probably better but surely still oversubscribed). I looked at going with leased line dedicated internet instead of the oversubscribed crap that we get with typical internet access but it’s super expensive and is kind of overkill running that to a residential zone. That’s why I bit the bullet and just set up a server at a proper datacenter where connectivity is dedicated and already set up and power is backed by multiple layers of ups and generator backup. It is pricey though but the beauty is that it’s all our own compute hardware and the level of service is awesome. Plus we get free conference rooms! You might have a better experience running stuff at home where you’re at though. Do you have a couple public IP addresses to host stuff on?
We have a gitlab instance at gitlab.catx.io, we can use it for JIRA/ADO type issue tracking. You should be able to create an account there.
(*71144c1d*):: Dude I fucking hate Spectrum. They are genuinely the only ISP I’ve ever had with less than three 9’s of availability.
My actual home setup rn has everything going out over a VPN. If I were to start hosting, I’d need to switch to a VPN that allows port forwarding and set up a reverse proxy in front for extra privacy, both for me and for clients.
(*6952cd93*):: what ISP do you use at your place? How much bandwidth? what’s the latency like over the vpn?