Sun Jan 26 18:24:29 2025
(*4297a328*):: yeah it’s not the end of it. Sounds like we’ve closed visa applications at the embassy in colo. this is only the beginning of the beginning on this deportation stuff. We have lots of leverage
(*4297a328*):: -> #deportation-department
(*4e3d9761*)::
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*097dfbf6*):: lol Columbia is about to get fucked after fixing its shit for a while. The cocaine wars are ramping up suddenly over there. They might have had leverage before but it’s gone. Socialists ruin everything
(*2405d2f7*):: wild stuff.. I know a Columbian friend (transfix knows him too).. he has been hanging out in Columbia cuz its cheap I guess.. I would definitely be reassessing my life choice at this point on some level.
(*2405d2f7*):: Seems like a garbage country from what hes said .. just tons of sex workers.
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*2405d2f7*):: We live in interesting times.. this is probably the most interesting time out of all my years.. it is also domestic and here vs some half-assed war we are half committed to.
(*2405d2f7*):: At least my news addiction has some sort of justification these days
(*097dfbf6*):: That was the whole point though. If zoomers weren’t palestine posting Trump and everyone else wouldn’t have given a shit about tiktok. Now that Trump actually used it, he’s walking it back. Same thing with crypto, he hated it now he has his own shitcoin lmao
(*097dfbf6*):: Yeah there was a couple years where it was fine down there but it’s rapidly declining again. When it was chill I knew a couple guys that went down there to get their rocks off and said it was great lol. World capital of hookers and blow
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*097dfbf6*):: That was the whole point though. If zoomers weren’t palestine posting Trump and everyone else wouldn’t have given a shit about tiktok. Now that Trump actually used it, he’s walking it back. Same thing with crypto, he hated it now he has his own shitcoin lmao
(*2405d2f7*):: That was 2020 though. I don’t think the palestianian thing was a big factor in the equation. Trump just does whatever is in his interest… It isnt’ that he “used it”.. it is that he sees that it gives him power. It wasn’t like a “oh look at this. ain’t it nifty”. TBH that whole platform just needs to be recreated. It is all the same shit. Mindless drivel. I hate short-form video in general. I find myself annoyed by it constantly. Some sort of fakery 80% of the time or if not that it is some dude riding something with wheels in a weird way.
(*2405d2f7*):: something will take the place of tiktok. It isn’t like any sort of unique thing on any level. We could recreate it ourselves minus the network effect.
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, my friend the hooker thing is like endemic to their culture now… like.. it is really a thing.. and not just part of the lower classes getting by.. We do import 25 billion of their stuff though. I wonder what we export to them that they can retaliate with.. man this tariff business is a great way for government to pick winners and losers.
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*097dfbf6*):: fair point but it’s a powerful platform all around. Even if you think it’s mindless slop (i do too) it’s extremely effective on the target audience. The idea that it’s bad because they are collecting info is dumb, everyone is collecting the same info. That’s just an excuse. Oct 7 broke the seal on a ban for neocons. If that didn’t happen the national security talk would have died down. ByteDance cooled Trump on a ban by promoting his content for the election cycle.
(*097dfbf6*):: That was the whole point though. If zoomers weren’t palestine posting Trump and everyone else wouldn’t have given a shit about tiktok. Now that Trump actually used it, he’s walking it back. Same thing with crypto, he hated it now he has his own shitcoin lmao
(*2405d2f7*):: That was 2020 though. I don’t think the palestianian thing was a big factor in the equation. Trump just does whatever is in his interest… It isnt’ that he “used it”.. it is that he sees that it gives him power. It wasn’t like a “oh look at this. ain’t it nifty”. TBH that whole platform just needs to be recreated. It is all the same shit. Mindless drivel. I hate short-form video in general. I find myself annoyed by it constantly. Some sort of fakery 80% of the time or if not that it is some dude riding something with wheels in a weird way.
(*097dfbf6*):: Meta, Google, etc could have made it but they didn’t. They have their own shorts but they’re just not popular
(*2405d2f7*):: something will take the place of tiktok. It isn’t like any sort of unique thing on any level. We could recreate it ourselves minus the network effect.
(*097dfbf6*):: I think the losers here are picking themselves. We could all have fair trade if these people weren’t playing subversive games. Why is America the only one that has to play fair so everyone can take advantage? It’s like mexico- they literally weaponized mass immigration against us like it was their right then they complain that trump is a bully when he punishes them. That’s an act of war.
(*097dfbf6*):: Look at Denmark. They non stop talk shit about the USA, they brag about how they are perfect while we protect them and funnel money to them. And when we want something in return they flip out. Same story repeated all over earth
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*2405d2f7*):: How did Mexico weaponize mass immigration?… when I say winners/losers I don’t mean at the nation level – I mean private enterprise… they’re not picking themselves.
(*097dfbf6*):: That was the whole point though. If zoomers weren’t palestine posting Trump and everyone else wouldn’t have given a shit about tiktok. Now that Trump actually used it, he’s walking it back. Same thing with crypto, he hated it now he has his own shitcoin lmao
(*2405d2f7*):: That was 2020 though. I don’t think the palestianian thing was a big factor in the equation. Trump just does whatever is in his interest… It isnt’ that he “used it”.. it is that he sees that it gives him power. It wasn’t like a “oh look at this. ain’t it nifty”. TBH that whole platform just needs to be recreated. It is all the same shit. Mindless drivel. I hate short-form video in general. I find myself annoyed by it constantly. Some sort of fakery 80% of the time or if not that it is some dude riding something with wheels in a weird way.
(*2405d2f7*):: something will take the place of tiktok. It isn’t like any sort of unique thing on any level. We could recreate it ourselves minus the network effect.
(*097dfbf6*):: fair point but it’s a powerful platform all around. Even if you think it’s mindless slop (i do too) it’s extremely effective on the target audience. The idea that it’s bad because they are collecting info is dumb, everyone is collecting the same info. That’s just an excuse. Oct 7 broke the seal on a ban for neocons. If that didn’t happen the national security talk would have died down. ByteDance cooled Trump on a ban by promoting his content for the election cycle.
(*097dfbf6*):: Meta, Google, etc could have made it but they didn’t. They have their own shorts but they’re just not popular
(*2405d2f7*):: I mean it isn’t good.. I remember back when the crypto guys liked not being traceable. Now people accept that there is an app that tracks associations of people at the physical level and the fact that this is just like.. standard and to be expected. That shit would have never flew in a similar crowd as this but 10 years ago.
(*097dfbf6*):: Instead of blocking illegals, they ushered them across mexico, allowed the cartels to rake in billions doing it, and not only that AMLO used them as a threat to the Biden admin for more money. Pure narco criminal bs from the literal mexican government itself. If all those people’s intent was to stay, mexico would have cleaned them all up pronto. They’ll deport Americans the second they are past their visa https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1883354938849247364
*** Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) on X
*** American Citizen overstayed her 180 tourist visa in Mexico
She was stopped on a bus coming back from a concert, taken to an immigration office and she documents herself being forced deported by Mexico back to America
Democrats don’t want you to see other countries, especially
*** X (formerly Twitter)
(*2405d2f7*):: People complained about “the algo” so hard. Conservatives were all over that when they were told so. Now if the algo is controlled by CCP and they don’t care? That makes no real sense to me.
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(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*54b3f3ac*):: ya nobody has open borders like we do
(*097dfbf6*):: Well they didn’t really know what they were complaining about. American audiences want to see hot girls twerking about instead of kids doing science experiments. It is what it is. But cons think it’s some Chyna op lmao
(*2405d2f7*):: I don’t see that as weaponizing.. mostly just not wanting to spend the resources to correct the problem. Just like we don’t want to defend out borders – neither did Mexico. It just that Mexico doesn’t need to defend them because Mexico is nothing special
(*097dfbf6*):: As for tracking and whatnot, yeah it’s really bad. But it’s almost impossible to stop unless we can build our own electronics from the ground up. Stuff like monero hasn’t been made illegal though. There are methods to avoid being traced but you have to not be sloppy
(*097dfbf6*):: That was the whole point though. If zoomers weren’t palestine posting Trump and everyone else wouldn’t have given a shit about tiktok. Now that Trump actually used it, he’s walking it back. Same thing with crypto, he hated it now he has his own shitcoin lmao
(*2405d2f7*):: That was 2020 though. I don’t think the palestianian thing was a big factor in the equation. Trump just does whatever is in his interest… It isnt’ that he “used it”.. it is that he sees that it gives him power. It wasn’t like a “oh look at this. ain’t it nifty”. TBH that whole platform just needs to be recreated. It is all the same shit. Mindless drivel. I hate short-form video in general. I find myself annoyed by it constantly. Some sort of fakery 80% of the time or if not that it is some dude riding something with wheels in a weird way.
(*2405d2f7*):: something will take the place of tiktok. It isn’t like any sort of unique thing on any level. We could recreate it ourselves minus the network effect.
(*097dfbf6*):: fair point but it’s a powerful platform all around. Even if you think it’s mindless slop (i do too) it’s extremely effective on the target audience. The idea that it’s bad because they are collecting info is dumb, everyone is collecting the same info. That’s just an excuse. Oct 7 broke the seal on a ban for neocons. If that didn’t happen the national security talk would have died down. ByteDance cooled Trump on a ban by promoting his content for the election cycle.
(*097dfbf6*):: Meta, Google, etc could have made it but they didn’t. They have their own shorts but they’re just not popular
(*2405d2f7*):: I mean it isn’t good.. I remember back when the crypto guys liked not being traceable. Now people accept that there is an app that tracks associations of people at the physical level and the fact that this is just like.. standard and to be expected. That shit would have never flew in a similar crowd as this but 10 years ago.
(*097dfbf6*):: No man they did it to actively hurt our country and to make money. They are criminals and spending money to correct the problem would mean a loss of billions in revenue. Plus the socialists get to fuck the big bad USA. I mean what do you make of this? https://atxcf.slack.com/archives/C5ATH1V08/p1704816380398189
*** I don’t know about y’all, but to me this looks like Mexico is literally committing an act of war against the USA. They know they are damaging our country and are actively participating then they give Biden this ultimatum? Wtf?
*** I don’t know about y’all, but to me this looks like Mexico is literally committing an act of war against the USA. They know they are damaging our country and are actively participating then they give Biden this ultimatum? Wtf?
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*2405d2f7*):: People complained about “the algo” so hard. Conservatives were all over that when they were told so. Now if the algo is controlled by CCP and they don’t care? That makes no real sense to me.
(*097dfbf6*):: ghey, ZH archives old articles behind a paywall lol
(*097dfbf6*):: you can find that elsewhere though, AMLO was trying to extort the biden admin
*** I don’t know about y’all, but to me this looks like Mexico is literally committing an act of war against the USA. They know they are damaging our country and are actively participating then they give Biden this ultimatum? Wtf?
(*54b3f3ac*):: ya and the cartels #2 money maker is human traffickin now too
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah exactly. It’s a huge biz
(*54b3f3ac*):: also helps make the econ numbers in america look better since no onew is having kids here
(*54b3f3ac*):: and by no one i mean white americans
(*097dfbf6*):: made a good point the other day- mass repatriation should have a deflationary effect. All this talk about egg prices going down but the reality is if they do go down along with everything else, mainstream economists are going to shit themselves and say Trump is destroying everything
(*2405d2f7*):: lol zerohedge… it is definitely easier for Mexico to protect their southern border than ours.. and could have done a lot. yea, wish the article wasn’t paywalled.
*** I don’t know about y’all, but to me this looks like Mexico is literally committing an act of war against the USA. They know they are damaging our country and are actively participating then they give Biden this ultimatum? Wtf?
(*2405d2f7*):: mass repatriation will have a deflationary effect? hows that?
(*097dfbf6*):: Here’s some NYP commentary on the issue. There was a 60 minutes interview with AMLO where he said this stuff https://nypost.com/2024/03/27/opinion/mexican-president-blackmails-biden-over-the-border/
*** Mexican president blackmails Biden over the border
*** Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador sat down for an interview Sunday with CBS News’ “60 Minutes” and made it clear he controls the US southern border that President Biden has abandoned.…
*** New York Post
(*097dfbf6*):: If there are suddenly millions less people buying goods, it softens overall demand
(*54b3f3ac*):: i think just by basic econ. lower demand stuff
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah
(*097dfbf6*):: That was the whole point though. If zoomers weren’t palestine posting Trump and everyone else wouldn’t have given a shit about tiktok. Now that Trump actually used it, he’s walking it back. Same thing with crypto, he hated it now he has his own shitcoin lmao
(*2405d2f7*):: That was 2020 though. I don’t think the palestianian thing was a big factor in the equation. Trump just does whatever is in his interest… It isnt’ that he “used it”.. it is that he sees that it gives him power. It wasn’t like a “oh look at this. ain’t it nifty”. TBH that whole platform just needs to be recreated. It is all the same shit. Mindless drivel. I hate short-form video in general. I find myself annoyed by it constantly. Some sort of fakery 80% of the time or if not that it is some dude riding something with wheels in a weird way.
(*2405d2f7*):: something will take the place of tiktok. It isn’t like any sort of unique thing on any level. We could recreate it ourselves minus the network effect.
(*097dfbf6*):: fair point but it’s a powerful platform all around. Even if you think it’s mindless slop (i do too) it’s extremely effective on the target audience. The idea that it’s bad because they are collecting info is dumb, everyone is collecting the same info. That’s just an excuse. Oct 7 broke the seal on a ban for neocons. If that didn’t happen the national security talk would have died down. ByteDance cooled Trump on a ban by promoting his content for the election cycle.
(*097dfbf6*):: Meta, Google, etc could have made it but they didn’t. They have their own shorts but they’re just not popular
(*2405d2f7*):: I mean it isn’t good.. I remember back when the crypto guys liked not being traceable. Now people accept that there is an app that tracks associations of people at the physical level and the fact that this is just like.. standard and to be expected. That shit would have never flew in a similar crowd as this but 10 years ago.
(*097dfbf6*):: Well they didn’t really know what they were complaining about. American audiences want to see hot girls twerking about instead of kids doing science experiments. It is what it is. But cons think it’s some Chyna op lmao
(*097dfbf6*):: As for tracking and whatnot, yeah it’s really bad. But it’s almost impossible to stop unless we can build our own electronics from the ground up. Stuff like monero hasn’t been made illegal though. There are methods to avoid being traced but you have to not be sloppy
(*2405d2f7*):: it isn’t that hard to stop… well, if the OS walls off capabilities to some degree but yea there is always the IP.
(*54b3f3ac*):: in theory at least. but i have a hard time thinking that these companies will lower prices. although fast food is finally doing it since they got so greedy with margins so maaybe
(*2405d2f7*):: I don’t see weaponizing or anything like that.. I just see him “making a deal” as Trump would say. I mean I don’t want to excuse Mexico but.. realistically I would not expect them to do the job of the US. It is our border and we should be able to defend it. It is just that geography makes this very difficult and our freedoms make these things hard to enforce internally.
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats just wishful thinking.. largely the prices of the goods are driven by the prices of hte input. Just because there is less demand doesn’t mean that there is room to make things cheaper. The biggest factor will be labor. That seems like wishful thinking to me..
(*a3a26d18*):: Since we’re on the topic of constitutional law, I genuinely have no clue if its constitutional to ban TikTok or not. I feel like that breaks the first amendment even though its a foreign entity
(*2405d2f7*):: Yea, that is an intersting question. Tiktok being foreign has no constitutional rights but people using it as a platform do … I’d lean towards not a constitutional issue though. The ban is for a company/software operating in our country. The ban is not “oh this is available but you can’t use it, Americans”
(*097dfbf6*):: They can sidestep it by making it a national security issue but that’s as bogus to me as the patriot act. If China is adding keyloggers and spyware then get them on that but just banning it is just a petty action on behalf of Israhell that’s mad about gen z palestine posting. It’s a 1st amendment violation.
(*097dfbf6*):: our own tech companies violate the 4th on behalf of the government. They collect the same data on us and send it to gov for subsidies. It’s just hypocrisy. I have major problems with China dicking around here in the USA but to make tiktok the big issue and not anything else is insane.
(*2405d2f7*):: In 2020, the United States government announced that it was considering banning the Chinese social media platform TikTok upon a request from Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who viewed the app as a national security threat. The result was that the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance—which initially planned on selling a small portion of TikTok to an American company—agreed to divest TikTok to prevent a ban in the United States and in other countries where restrictions are also being considered due to privacy concerns, which themselves are mostly related to its ownership by a firm based in China.
(*2405d2f7*):: hard to say it is just a “petty action on behalf of Israel” ..
(*2405d2f7*):: People complained about “the algo” so hard. Conservatives were all over that when they were told so. Now if the algo is controlled by CCP and they don’t care? That makes no real sense to me.
(*2405d2f7*):: Used cars .. ok.. I can see.. but things like food? the supply/demand stuff is a huge simplfication when you look at just those 2 factors. And it only works when price is actually set by demand and I don’t think thats really the case for food and such.
(*2405d2f7*):: but if they have the margins already and can actually cut into them, then maybe so?
(*097dfbf6*):: the demand for the input should go down accordingly too, if significant numbers of people fail to show up to buy. So should demand for labor
(*097dfbf6*):: if the gov deficit remains huge then that will keep prices up
(*2405d2f7*):: mass repatriation will have a deflationary effect? hows that?
(*097dfbf6*):: If there are suddenly millions less people buying goods, it softens overall demand
(*54b3f3ac*):: i think just by basic econ. lower demand stuff
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats true but I still don’t begin to buy it.. people raitonalize all sorts of things. There arent’ enough Americans around to take those shitty jobs and your typical Trump voter doesn’t even want those jobs. Or liberals either. With less people to work/create hten there is less supply… if you’re going to simplify it like that then you need to keep that aspect too.
(*097dfbf6*):: It’s mexicos job if they are travelling through mexico to get here. Plus they make money by default through the cartels. These people will even say they don’t want to clean up the cartels because the money they make flows into the legal economy
(*097dfbf6*):: It’s basically like a criminal shakedown where they are demanding money to stop screwing us
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah it’s making a deal, a really bad one for us where we lose money for no reason
(*2405d2f7*):: it isn’t clearly Mexico’s job.. if the people aren’t going there for Mexico.. why would the expend all those resources on their own dime? It is just as much our job to protect our borders than Mexicos. How can you argue otherwise?
(*2405d2f7*):: criminal shakedown .. but Trump’s use of tariffs are morally/ethically different how?
(*2405d2f7*):: no reason? the reason being we want Mexico to protect our borders.
(*097dfbf6*):: Mexico is making money human trafficking
(*097dfbf6*):: it’s a criminal narco state
(*2405d2f7*):: the vastness of our southern border + difference in standard of living + our love of freedom (no – “papers, please!”) .. makes it very hard.. it is just as much our problem for making it enticing to be here for the immigrants…
(*097dfbf6*):: well now that biden is gone, we are making it much less inciting
(*2405d2f7*):: inciting lol
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, I agree with that.
(*2405d2f7*):: I mean I agree that without Biden we will see far fewer people trying to come here..
(*2405d2f7*):: mass repatriation will have a deflationary effect? hows that?
(*097dfbf6*):: If there are suddenly millions less people buying goods, it softens overall demand
(*54b3f3ac*):: i think just by basic econ. lower demand stuff
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah
(*54b3f3ac*):: in theory at least. but i have a hard time thinking that these companies will lower prices. although fast food is finally doing it since they got so greedy with margins so maaybe
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats just wishful thinking.. largely the prices of the goods are driven by the prices of hte input. Just because there is less demand doesn’t mean that there is room to make things cheaper. The biggest factor will be labor. That seems like wishful thinking to me..
(*2405d2f7*):: Used cars .. ok.. I can see.. but things like food? the supply/demand stuff is a huge simplfication when you look at just those 2 factors. And it only works when price is actually set by demand and I don’t think thats really the case for food and such.
(*2405d2f7*):: but if they have the margins already and can actually cut into them, then maybe so?
(*097dfbf6*):: the demand for the input should go down accordingly too, if significant numbers of people fail to show up to buy the end product. So should demand for labor
(*097dfbf6*):: if the gov deficit remains huge then that will keep prices up
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats true but I still don’t begin to buy it.. people raitonalize all sorts of things. There arent’ enough Americans around to take those shitty jobs and your typical Trump voter doesn’t even want those jobs. Or liberals either. With less people to work/create hten there is less supply… if you’re going to simplify it like that then you need to keep that aspect too.
(*097dfbf6*):: Americans will work the jobs when they pay correctly. When slaves couldn’t pick cotton anymore, they sorted out the economy. They can do it again. Besides, robots are going to be doing that work in 5 years anyway
(*2405d2f7*):: ahh silicon valley techbro magical thinking… when the jobs pay correctly – that just means the good will be inflated. What is so great is how tariffs are basically a regressive tax and Trump cuts taxes on wealthy.. ugh we’re so fucked. We won’t be able to blame the brown men forever lol
(*2405d2f7*):: mass repatriation will have a deflationary effect? hows that?
(*097dfbf6*):: If there are suddenly millions less people buying goods, it softens overall demand
(*54b3f3ac*):: i think just by basic econ. lower demand stuff
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah
(*54b3f3ac*):: in theory at least. but i have a hard time thinking that these companies will lower prices. although fast food is finally doing it since they got so greedy with margins so maaybe
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats just wishful thinking.. largely the prices of the goods are driven by the prices of hte input. Just because there is less demand doesn’t mean that there is room to make things cheaper. The biggest factor will be labor. That seems like wishful thinking to me..
(*2405d2f7*):: Used cars .. ok.. I can see.. but things like food? the supply/demand stuff is a huge simplfication when you look at just those 2 factors. And it only works when price is actually set by demand and I don’t think thats really the case for food and such.
(*2405d2f7*):: but if they have the margins already and can actually cut into them, then maybe so?
(*097dfbf6*):: the demand for the input should go down accordingly too, if significant numbers of people fail to show up to buy the end product. So should demand for labor
(*097dfbf6*):: if the gov deficit remains huge then that will keep prices up
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats true but I still don’t begin to buy it.. people raitonalize all sorts of things. There arent’ enough Americans around to take those shitty jobs and your typical Trump voter doesn’t even want those jobs. Or liberals either. With less people to work/create hten there is less supply… if you’re going to simplify it like that then you need to keep that aspect too.
(*097dfbf6*):: Americans will work the jobs when they pay correctly. When slaves couldn’t pick cotton anymore, they sorted out the economy. They can do it again. Besides, robots are going to be doing that work in 5 years anyway
(*54b3f3ac*):: it is the same for food or anything really. as i mentioned the fast food industry is scrambling to make 5$ meal deals and shit under 10 bux bc the market is bitching about how high the prices are
(*097dfbf6*):: They have these people taking slave wages under the table and stacking them way past fire code in small apartments. There has to be a better way than treat people like this
(*54b3f3ac*):: and i think they are getting paiod correctly for the most part arnt they? i mean cashiers and dumb ass jobs are at 20 bucks an hr now
(*2405d2f7*):: ahh silicon valley techbro magical thinking… when the jobs pay correctly – that just means the good will be inflated. What is so great is how tariffs are basically a regressive tax and Trump cuts taxes on wealthy.. ugh we’re so fucked. We won’t be able to blame the brown men forever lol
(*097dfbf6*):: i mean the migrant farm workers
(*097dfbf6*):: theres only like 300k of them too
(*54b3f3ac*):: ahh ok. well its a tough balance. if they paid high wages for all those guys, you think inflation is bad now? not saying its good but we kinda between a rock and hard place and its gonna suck for a bit to actually fix shit
(*2405d2f7*):: mass repatriation will have a deflationary effect? hows that?
(*097dfbf6*):: If there are suddenly millions less people buying goods, it softens overall demand
(*54b3f3ac*):: i think just by basic econ. lower demand stuff
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah
(*54b3f3ac*):: in theory at least. but i have a hard time thinking that these companies will lower prices. although fast food is finally doing it since they got so greedy with margins so maaybe
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats just wishful thinking.. largely the prices of the goods are driven by the prices of hte input. Just because there is less demand doesn’t mean that there is room to make things cheaper. The biggest factor will be labor. That seems like wishful thinking to me..
(*2405d2f7*):: Used cars .. ok.. I can see.. but things like food? the supply/demand stuff is a huge simplfication when you look at just those 2 factors. And it only works when price is actually set by demand and I don’t think thats really the case for food and such.
(*2405d2f7*):: but if they have the margins already and can actually cut into them, then maybe so?
(*097dfbf6*):: the demand for the input should go down accordingly too, if significant numbers of people fail to show up to buy the end product. So should demand for labor
(*097dfbf6*):: if the gov deficit remains huge then that will keep prices up
(*2405d2f7*):: yea, thats true but I still don’t begin to buy it.. people raitonalize all sorts of things. There arent’ enough Americans around to take those shitty jobs and your typical Trump voter doesn’t even want those jobs. Or liberals either. With less people to work/create hten there is less supply… if you’re going to simplify it like that then you need to keep that aspect too.
(*097dfbf6*):: Americans will work the jobs when they pay correctly. When slaves couldn’t pick cotton anymore, they sorted out the economy. They can do it again. Besides, robots are going to be doing that work in 5 years anyway
(*54b3f3ac*):: it is the same for food or anything really. as i mentioned the fast food industry is scrambling to make 5$ meal deals and shit under 10 bux bc the market is bitching about how high the prices are
(*097dfbf6*):: They have these people taking slave wages under the table and stacking them way past fire code in small apartments. There has to be a better way than treat people like this
(*54b3f3ac*):: and i think they are getting paiod correctly for the most part arnt they? i mean cashiers and dumb ass jobs are at 20 bucks an hr now
(*097dfbf6*):: yeah it’s not gonna be easy
(*097dfbf6*):: Colombia already caved. We don’t actually have to even use tariffs, just the threat of them is enough in many cases https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1883601678899016168
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(*2405d2f7*):: ahh silicon valley techbro magical thinking… when the jobs pay correctly – that just means the good will be inflated. What is so great is how tariffs are basically a regressive tax and Trump cuts taxes on wealthy.. ugh we’re so fucked. We won’t be able to blame the brown men forever lol
(*097dfbf6*):: i mean the migrant farm workers
(*097dfbf6*):: theres only like 300k of them too
(*54b3f3ac*):: ahh ok. well its a tough balance. if they paid high wages for all those guys, you think inflation is bad now? not saying its good but we kinda between a rock and hard place and its gonna suck for a bit to actually fix shit
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(*097dfbf6*):: If tariffs are really just a tax on the US consumer, then why does this work?
(*2405d2f7*):: People say it is a tax on the domestic consumer in response to Trump insisting ‘we’ll make them pay’. I don’t want to offend people around here.. but I don’t think a signficant amount of his followers can put together a long enough chain of thought to see what is clearly true. Tariffs can accomplish a variety of things but it isn’t ‘making them pay’.. that is selling a load of bullshit .. (and people will buy it)
(*2405d2f7*):: presidential plane… i wonder if that is a play to gain points with his domestic supporters.. “We don’t treat them as criminals, I send my personal plane!”